the rocky road to Dublin – the way we were

Good evening boys and girls, ladies and gents
I’m back
Summer’s drawing to a close

Time for a film as the Pope is visiting part of Ireland

He’s begging for forgiveness and pardon for clerical “sins” –

Crimes to you and me!

The numbers of children and women who were tortured by the church and state is almost too immense to fathom.
For decades Irish  governments sent babies, children and women into incarceration which they knew was brutal and horrific.

Doctors, Gardai, teachers, mothers, sports organisations, fathers, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, friends, neighbours and the clergy knew what has happening and the majority stayed silent or deliberately covered up.

Similar crimes happened in Scotland as we saw nuns arrested just this week

What is the Church doing?

Pope Francis is not handing anybody over to the police

He’s not offering compensation to the victims

I don’t see any sign of the Vatican cheque book handy,

to pay up for all the damages.

The Pope’s in Silent prayer….

That’ll certainly help the Survivors.

How about  turning in those Churchmen that allowed/facilitated this and covered up for their criminal colleagues?

 

So we come to tonight’s film

It’s hard watching

Shows how gullible we were, how trusting and naive, ripe for the plucking

Let’s hope we have wised up by now – at least enough to look after ourselves!

3 thoughts on “the rocky road to Dublin – the way we were

  1. Hi ,excellent article , thank you for posting , always enjoy reading your work . Recently saw that 51% of school children in N.Ireland are now Catholic and 37% are Protestants. Do you think the next generation would still vote 85% to stay within the UK?. If so, would this be for purely pragmatic reasons such as economic / employment reasons ?

    Would be interested to know if there is reduced alignment in recent decades between religion and national identity in N.Ireland ?

    Lastly , it seems that people in the Republic identify significantly less with the Catholic Church. If this holds true for Ulster, whats the impact for Northern Ireland’s future ?

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    • thanks for the compliments and for looking in Liam.
      You’re always welcome, especially with a list of questions! because one of our mottoes is “Question Everything and Deny Ignorance”!
      Let’s take your questions one at a time:

      “Do you think the next generation would still vote 85% to stay within the UK?”

      no i don’t. I think that neither the present nor the next generation will vote to stay within the UK – given the demographic changes you pointed out and given Brexit which is a real game-changer

      “If so, would this be for purely pragmatic reasons such as economic / employment reasons ?”

      I think people are now more inclined to vote for a re-united ireland
      People includes nationalists/republicans (who will vote for patriotic reasons) and some Unionists who know what side their bread is buttered – and will vote for economic/employment reasons.
      As we saw in the brexit referendum

      Unionists are loyal to the half-crown rather than the crown, as our grannies used to say!
      The ROI is powering ahead , economically speaking, while Unionist administered NI has been on a downward slope since it was founded. That slope will get a lot steeper and slippier with Brexit

      Furthermore, given their Coventanter origins, Unionist loyalty is always conditional on the UK giving them what they want. Even if the UK wants to give the DUP what it wants I am not entirely convinced that it can. Now they are up against approximately 50% of the population in NI, the ROI which says nationalists/republicans will mever more be abandoned and 26 EU allies

      “Would be interested to know if there is reduced alignment in recent decades between religion and national identity in N.Ireland ?”
      i would date”reduced alignment between catholicism and national identity” in NI back to the Humanae Vitae Encyclical which was published by Pope Paul VI in 1968 – that fateful year of the Summer of Love, revolution in paris etc..It prohibited birth control
      People started asking “what right has the Pope to poke his nose in between the curtains of our bedroom?Married women started saying “the doctor gave me the pill. I can have a good time with my husband with no worries. Why should we stop because an aged celibate in Rome says so?”
      So identification with catholicism was dropping even before the scandals over child abuse/magdalen/illegal adoptions/child deaths even broke in the 1990s.

      Remember- Republicanism is not Catholicism. Many Republicans were excommunicated over the years by the catholic church. The Fenian proclamation (see fenian trilogy) advocated separation of Church and State. Dr Varadakar is getting there- nearly 200 years later!

      “it seems that people in the Republic identify significantly less with the Catholic Church. If this holds true for Ulster, whats the impact for Northern Ireland’s future ?”

      Religion-wise NI’s future is being blocked by the arch-reactionary evangelicals of the DUP, Caleb and, no surprise here – the sectarian Loyal Orders. They are now a minority in NI, that have used and abused their power for over 100 years, so change is finally looming on the horizon. We’ll get there!

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