Squaring the Circle – What NO means

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The Union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has hardly been a success in the last 50 years, has it?
30 years internecine strife in Northern  Ireland, an uneasy peace, Nationalists and Republicans with one foot out the door  and now 45% of Scots want to leave.
That would not have been a problem if all the UK party leaders hadn’t promised

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Devo Max for Scotland if they voted NO.Back bencher, former PM, Mr Gordon Brown, even mentioned HOME RULE for Scotland

Scotland will be happy to accept interim HOME RULE – if it ever materialises.

Query: What do other people think?

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Over my dead body” said UKIP

Let’s have an English referendum on ejecting Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from the United Kingdom”.

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Fine” said the Conservatives “but those Scots can’t come here and vote on English issues

Comment:  They’re just repeating what Liberal Prime Minister

William Gladstone

 

William Gladstone said in 1886 about the First Home Rule Bill for Ireland

If Ireland is to have domestic legislation for Irish affairs they cannot come here for English or Scottish affairs”

 

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Great” said Wales, Cornwall and Yorkshire “We want some of those devolved powers too. Why only those Scots insurgents who threatened to break up our country?

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No” said the DUP in NI “We’d only have to share those powers with Sinn Fein

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Yes please” said Sinn Fein “We want our country back

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No! Let’s discuss it in a convention ” said the British Labour Party “A lot of our MPs come from Scotland and Wales. If they can’t vote on English matters we’ll never be in power again. And even if we get a majority thanks to the Scottish and Welsh votes , we’ll never be able to govern England

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Great” said Mr Cameron “All the better for us, my dears.

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Her Majesty’s purring

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Query: So what are the options?
1) Home Rule for Scotland alone as promised to secure the referendum?
Watch the uproar in Wales and England
2) A federal UK like Germany or the USA?
That wouldn’t work because of

a)  the disproportionate size of the English population (85%)

b)  divided loyalities.

c) Nearly half the populations in Scotland and NI want out of the Union.

d) The English have already refused regional assemblies and proposals about city states. They want England to stay united. They don’t want to pay for another layer of government. They want to decide and legislate alone on matters that involve England. They have every right to want all these things.

f) Finally, federalism with its separation of powers, written constitution and so on,  is alien to Westminster

3) Devolution for England and a Chamber for the home nations to decide on Defence and other reserved issues?

What’s to stop them eventually spinning into independence?

4) Independence now for Wales, Scotland and NI?

Why not?

Query: Do you really support UKIP?

Answer: Apparently so!!

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Conclusion: Maybe Mr Cameron should have let Scotland go – it would have caused fewer problems in the long run
The Union is now running on borrowed time

 

http://ananaddoush.com/2011/01/

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-ed-miliband-nick-4265992

http://mixedflag.co.uk/flag-detail.php?flag1=England&flag2=Wales

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/09/24/british-pm-caught-saying-queen-purred-pleasure-over-scottish-vote

http://blingee.com/blingee/view/83776245-Are-you-sure-you-want-to-delete-kitty-

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