So the 1867 Rising failed?
The Fenians were overwhelmingly peasant and worker in membership and had no support among the general population. They distrusted the upper and middle classes. They made consistent anti-landlord propaganda in their paper and they were at war with the Catholic Church (which actively supported the UK connection) in such an outspoken way as has not been dared by any group since
De Valera certainly didn’t make that mistake again.
He personally supervised the writing of the 1937 Constitution. A draft was presented personally to the Vatican for review and comment on two occasions even though the “special position” of Catholicism was held to derive merely from its greater number of adherents. De Valera did resist pressure from right-wing Catholic groups to make Catholicism an established church or to declare it the “one true religion”.
What did the Fenians achieve?
They were partly responsible for spurring William Gladstone
into his stated mission “to pacify Ireland”. This led to the rise of Home Rule, constitutional nationalism and the issues surrounding it.
In 1874 a leading Fenian said: “I make no objection… that the Home Rule Platform should be accepted as a compromise… but we must be told when it is going to be finished, for I don’t want, and I will not be a party to seeing, the ambition of a certain class of people satisfied while hunger exists in the land and the emigrant ships take our best me away to be slaves of other nations” (D.Thornley: Isaac Butt and Home Rule, p.243).
What happened after the 1867 Rising?
Fenians were charged with high treason and went to prison
When they were released they emerged as a disparate body, with different attitudes in different places at different times
3 Fenian Flames were their legacy
much of the leadership of the Land War, Land League and subsequent land agitation came from current and ex-Fenians.
The Land League movement of tenant farmers was seen as a challenge to British rule in Ireland.
1 June 1879: Fenian leaders Meet Parnell
Charles Stewart Parnell, Co Wicklow landlord, MP for Meath. They agreed Fenians and constitutional nationalists would combine in a struggle to reform the Irish land-system. The mass basis of Fenianism was harnessed to Parnellism, and transmitted to his successors and the land league was linked to Home Rule
Today we have Republicans meeting Queen Elizabeth II
2) Physical Force
The Invincibles of the 1880s were a militant underground Fenian group. They formed in response the coercion of the Land League tenant farmer movement. They wanted to ‘make history’ and established a grouping within the Fenian network to assassinate government administrators in Ireland. On May 6 1882, Frederick Cavendish, the Chief Secretary for Ireland and his Under Secretary, Burke, were brutally stabbed to death by group calling themselves the Irish National Invincibles
O’Donovan Rossa’s Funeral Oration
The 1916 Rising
3) Separatism by nurturing a distinctly Irish culture
John O’Leary was the head of the Young Ireland Societies.They organized the late 19th-early20th century literary revival, using history, education and commemorations
They were much more interested in the cultural aspects of nationhood than their predecessors They were the outworking of the socially-aware republicanism represented in the Proclamation.
Today we have Riverdance
a new Irish language movement
So what’s an unrepentant Fenian bastard?
Derogatory name for a Catholic; most often used in the northeast area of Ireland. Synonym: Taig
Use: a term of abuse