Away for a few days.
See you all at the beginning of February.
Away for a few days.
See you all at the beginning of February.
For all of you who missed Monday’s BBC programme
Was he pushed?
Did the dour “Never on a Sunday” DUP object to “chuckling”?
With a Republican!!
What do you think?
FERMANAGH DUP councillor,
Bert Johnston has dug in his heels against a road name on the outskirts of Enniskillen being given an Irish dual name.
“I prefer the English name because if you put up an Ulster Scots name, it’s an indication that it’s a unionist area and if you put up a bi-lingual name, English and Irish, it’s an indication that it’s a republican area.”
councillor, Tommy Maguire, who also sits on the ‘naming’ committee, said “the use of the Irish name, along with the English name, on street signs was in keeping with political changes“.
for Mr Johnson, DUP Councillor
“We have been working away through the council to get to this stage, to getting the Irish language recognised in its rightful place post-Good Friday Agreement, post the St Andrews Agreement and post the European Convention on Minority Languages.”
“We have 110 people attending Irish classes that the council provides, and there are other developments across the county, including the setting up of a craobh (branch) of Conrad na Gaeilge in Donagh.”
“IRISH is there for everybody’
The Irish classes were launched in September and are held at the Enniskillen Castle Museum,
free of charge through Fermanagh District Council as part of its Linguistic Diversity Policy through a service level agreement with the Ulster Council GAA
In an e-mail message that ended up on social networks
DUP Councillor Bert Johnston
thanks for support and encouragement in ‘his bid against the introduction of the Irish language to his town that produced the Inniskilling Fusiliers that fought for freedom” –
Query: Doesn’t he know the Inniskilling Fusiliers no longer exist?
The Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, a British Army Irish infantry regiment, was formed in 1881 by the amalgamation of the 27th (Inniskilling) Regiment of Foot and the 108th Regiment of Foot. It saw service in the South African War, WWI and WWII before being amalgamated into the Royal Irish Rangers in 1968
Query: What have the defunct Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers to do with Conas atá tú in Enniskillen?
MLA Phil Flanagan, said: “I have no problem respecting Bert’s Britishness. Clearly Bert has a problem respecting mine and others’ Irishness.”
“Bert’s comment is an example of how some within the DUP struggle to deal with the central plank of the Good Friday Agreement which is parity of esteem”.
Cllr Johnston responded: “The criticisms by the MLA Phil Flanagan is nothing to do with what I said. I would say that it’s just creating a storm in a teacup.”
Well Mr Johnson,
Nelson Mc Causland doesn’t get it either
Peter Robinson replied to what Mr Mc Guinness said
“The Deputy First Minister shows a visceral hatred of the Orange Institution in his interview.
While the DUP will always take its own decisions on political matters it deliberately invited a representative of the Orange Order to be part of the Haass Talks. I defy Martin McGuinness to deny that Mervyn Gibson’s contribution was anything other than instructive and positive. It is not a revelation to say that there is a link between the PUP and the UVF. Nor is there any news in the suggestion that just as the Orange has within its membership people who are in the DUP, UUP and TUV so too it includes members of the PUP”
Comment: The UVF’s political wing are the PUP. They appear regularly on podiums together with DUP politicians and Orange Order leaders.
An Orange Order spokesman remarked
“tired old mantra from a convicted terrorist, entirely without substance. Sinn Fein are masters of propaganda and one of their big tricks is to tell a big lie and keep on repeating it. We condemned terrorism when Mr McGuinness and his cohorts were actively involved in the IRA and continue to unreservedly oppose it today”.
Queries: What has that to do with links between the Orange Order, the PUP and the UVF? Or with lack of agreement of flags, parades, the past etc?
“The Orange Institution have always stood firm against attacks from the republican movement. During the height of the Troubles these attacks included the brutal murder of over 300 of our members and over 300 arson attacks on Orange halls. Where physical violence failed in the past, so too will verbal attacks fail now.”
Queries: How many people were murdered by members of the Orange Order during the Troubles? How many members of Loyalist paramilitaries were also in the Orange Order?
He added: “The Orange Institution takes its own decisions, applies its own decisions and stands by its own decisions. We will continue to speak out and act for what we believe is in the best interests of the Protestant and pro-Union community in Northern Ireland.”
Queries::Why is the Orange Order involved in politics?
Shouldn’t politicians work for the common goood of all the people, not just “The Protestant People of Ulster”.
Who is going to deal with the Conflict of Interest vis-à-vis Orange order members who are MPs at Westminster amd MLAs in the Stormont Assembly?
Same old, same old, Auld Orange Flute
The flute would play only “The Protestant Boys“.
When he tried it again, it played “Croppies Lie Down!”
“Kick the Pope” and “Boyne Water” it freely would sound
But one Papish squeak and it couldn’t be found.
As the flames rose around it, you could hear a strange noise
‘Twas the Old Flute still a-whistlin’ “The Protestant Boys“.
C O R K
Seamus from Cork
I was born in 1936 in No 9, Gouldings Terrace off Barrack Street. I was number five in line and our house was very small and in bad shape.
The terrace was actually one of a maze of lanes surrounding the Old Desmonds Square and in 1939 all the houses in the area were condemned and we were given a Corporation house in Gurranabraher, no. 15 Mount Nebo Avenue a three bedroom terrace house which was like a palace compared to what we had vacated.
There was no electricity in the house but we had a gas supply for light and cooking, and when the gas was rationed we cooked our meals on a sawdust drum in the backyard. The globe for the gas mantle was usually a two-pound jam jar with the bottom removed and sometimes when the globe became overheated it would break and come crashing down on the table.
We lived mainly on potatoes, bread, tripe, jam, and rice, and on a Sunday, if we were lucky we would have a pigs head and a pigs tail
Jam jars were also our drinking utensils. The pot of boiled potatoes was usually emptied on to the centre of the table and everyone just picked from the pile. Sliced pans had not been invented at that time
and the bread was baked in all shapes and sizes.Our table cloth was
pages from either the Examiner or the Echo and of course they were disposable, but in some ways we were better off than others, we were the proud owners of two spoons, one big and one small and the rest of us used our fingers for eating except for soup which we drank and slurped to our hearts content. Around the table at meal times we sat on one chair, a small stool
that seated one, a big stool that seated two and three tea chests.
Due to the rationing, tea was very scarce so our main drinks were cocoa and coffee, a thick liquid that came in a bottle
Sugar was also very scarce so we used saccarine tablets as a substitute and in order to spare the milk, it was put into the pot with the tea, coffee or cocoa, and if milk was unavailable we used a milk substitute
B E L F A S T
I remember wearing this jumper to the 46th Life Boys. Mum couldn’t afford a proper one at the time. I was wearing it when I had to do a Bible reading one Sunday
at the Drew Memorial on the Grosvenor Road. Remember storing bonfire wood over the wall at Grosvenor and climbing over to get it before the 11th night.
Of course I was tiny and the memory of doing this with the ‘Big Boys’ has stayed with me. Do you remember the store between the Killens and Skelly houses (8 & 10 Excise Street)? It was used and owned by Jebb who used to own several properties in the area and he also had a timber store in Distillery Street.
He also kept pigs in his Selby Street yard (back of Excise Street).
Excise St 1973
Brendan from Belfast
I was born in 1948 and brought up in Blackwater St,
a Protestant area- the only Catholic house in the street. We didn’t have much furniture, one soft chair for my father – the rest were bamboo or
wooden chairs, an outside toilet with a cistern. For us to get a bath we went to
the Falls Public Baths, sometimes once a week, once a fortnight. We had two bedrooms. A sitting-room downstairs, what we called the parlour, the room where my mother died. I remember my father, every Friday night he would come in and put the wage packet on the mantelpiece
and my job every Friday night was to go round and get what we called “the rations” – 3/4 lb of tea,3lb butter, 1 and 1/2 lb
and two shillings worth of broken biscuits. In the summer we had a bit of fruit or fish out of Fusco’s (a local fish and chip shop).I remember one midweek, we had no money whatsoever, not even a loaf of bread
D U B L I N
Jellybaby from Dublin:
Myself, born in 1952, I was married from a tenement flat in Dublin city in 1976. I remember the lack of privacy with the shared toilet on the landing above our flat. I remember the ‘toilet paper’ made from newspapers and hanging on string, the shared Belfast sink which would be worth a fortune today also on the landing,
The iron fireplace surrounds would also be worth a lot today. My mother dragging the messages, or a bag of coal up two flights of stairs,
and kneeling to scrub those same wooden stairs. We thankfully were not in very cramped conditions as there were only four in our family in two rooms, no bathroom.Another strong memory is the smell in the house, smells of
which my mother used to scrub us with until we were raw,
Jeyes Fluid which mother used every day when cleaning the toilet (she always said if she didn’t clean the toilet it would never be done as the other tenants rarely bothered), and the other smell which is wafting in my memory
is that of Lavender Furniture (or Floor?) Polish. She used this on the lino which although worn bare when polished it came up a treat.The main thing I will say is, as a child, I was extremely happy. I personally can’t remember being cold or hungry although I do remember my mother spreading margarine onto a crust and I sucked it sitting on the floor in front of the fire, and I also remember
our mattress, filled with horsehair, and my mother ironing the sheet with the old iron (made of iron and heated on the gas cooker) to make it warm for us on a winter’s night. But I also remember
the slops bucket which she carried up the stairs to the toilet to empty every day. I remember
with plastic paper cellotaped to the window frame to keep out the cold in winter, and the flies in summer, and I remember fly papers covered in bluebottles and flies.
There is no doubt my mother had it hard. She lived in that tenement flat until she died in 1984.
Ed Moloney, Voices From The Grave, Faber and Faber, ISBN 978-0-571-25368-1
Face to Face with Eamonn Mallie, whose son produced the show
Here’s Part 1 of the well-publicised programme
What emerges is a portrait of a power-driven egotist who is unable to admit responsibility for his own contribution to Loyalist violence or even to his faults – either he can’t remember or it’s always the other person’s fault – never his.
SDLP Councillor Declan O’Loan: “There will be some surprise that Ian Paisley is prepared to concede that the demands of the Civil Rights movement were justified. What he fails to do is take the obvious next step and admit that his political stance was fundamentally wrong. At no time has he ever done so.
“He is deeply inconsistent, even blaming the people of Ireland for the Dublin and Monaghan bombings which were carried out by the UVF”.
“ Ian Paisley resisted every movement towards reform. He did so in vitriolic, frequently anti-Catholic, language. I have no doubt that he stoked up hatred and built up fears”.
“Ian Paisley carries much of the responsibility for the wasted years when no political progress could be made here. His great u-turn when he led his Party into a power sharing government in 2007 does not wipe out his responsibility for great wrongs carried out over the previous 40 years,”
Here’s what a Loyalist, who was a Paisleyite as a young man, had to say
NB: Hitler didn’t actually throw any switches in any gas chamber – but he is rightly held responsible for the Holocaust.
Part 2 next week