The RUC’s Submission to Dr Haass

Yesterday’s Men

The Northern Ireland Retired Police Officers’ Association (NIRPOA) believe that the present institutional arrangements for dealing with the past are unsatisfactory.
Q.Why?
They help “facilitate, often at public expense, a continual campaign of baseless denigration of the members of the RUC George Cross
Comment: Hardly surprising since you were replaced because you were a politicized police force. Mr Patten said that his key objective was to “depoliticise” policing.
Policing in Northern Ireland has suffered, often with disastrous consequences, from being a political issue, and from being associated with the dispute about the state itself,”

NIRPOA wants
1) NO Amnesty
“A proper criminal justice system and a rule of law culture require that crimes do not cease to matter simply because they took place long ago”.

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2) NO Truth and Reconciliation Commissions
Truth may be incompatible with reconciliation“.

Q:Why?
There is much that would come out of such a process that could indeed be highly damaging – not to our members, but to some of our current crop of politicians as well as to local communities in which the true role of some of their members has so far remained secret”“.
Q:Is that a veiled threat?

3) NO Truth Commission
“Terrorists will not tell the truth. Nor do we have any confidence that anyone other than our members would actually tell the truth”

Comment: The RUC certainly told the truth about the McGurk’s Bar Massacre

4) NO Police Ombudsman
This institution is not fit for purpose. It has lost the confidence of our organisation

Comment: The Police Ombudsman concluded that
*the RUC investigation of the murder of 61-year-old Sean Brown from Bellaghy in County Derry/Londonderry in 1997 was incomplete and inadequate.
*The RUC failed identify and deal properly with all available forensic evidential opportunities.
*They did not search properly for witnesses. Although an eye witness said he approached the police on the night and provided information along with his details to an unknown uniformed officer, his details do not appear in the investigative file and his information was not followed up.

*The RUC did not fulfil their duty to protect the public
*They did did not warn residents in Londonderry that an IRA bomb that later killed three people had been left in a house on their estate.The booby-trap device exploded at 38 Kildrum Gardens in the Creggan on 31 August 1988.

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NIRPOA wrote to Justice Minister David Ford to lodge a complaint about the Ombudsman’s report, saying that, until certain conditions were met, it could no longer encourage its members to engage with the Ombudsman in the investigation of historical incidents.
Two of the Police Ombudsman post-holders have been abetted by those politicians and pressure groups who seek to denigrate the RUCGC and those politicians who have failed to understand, or have colluded in, the agenda of such groups”.

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5)NO to HET
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NIRPOA have serious concerns about the work of the HET. Reasons include “a disproportionate allocation of resources and effort in pursuing matters in which they believe that there may be an opportunity to criticise the RUC George Cross”
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The report by HM Inspectorate was triggered by “criticisms which had been levied by the non-statutory republican pressure groups”
Comment: Upon the request of the Chief Constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) in 2012, the Minister of Justice for Northern Ireland commissioned Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) to inspect the role and function of the Historical Enquiries Team (HET).
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/the-het-report/
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/the-het-report-part-2/
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/the-het-report-part-3/
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/the-het-report-part-4/
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/the-het-report-part-5-and-conclusions/

6) NO Republican propaganda “It is apparent that republican propagandists are desperate to ensure that their narrative should predominate. They are therefore using all their political muscle to skew the work of the relevant institutions in Northern Ireland in order to create a false narrative and the myth of “collusion”.
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https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/collusion-is-not-an-illusion/

NIRPOA says NO to Inquests
“Many of the so-called “contentious inquests” relate to events which took place thirty or more years ago. Our members, many of whom are elderly and some of whom are frail, are being asked to come out of retirement in order to face a barrage of hostile questions. Terrorist organisations seek to use such public hearings as a vehicle not only for discrediting the security forces but also, crucially, for exposing secret methodology”.
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“A new tactic of the pressure groups appears to be emerging, namely to seek to “profile” police officers who may appear in more than one inquest. The implication which the pressure groups are seeking to develop is that the involvement of such officers demonstrates some sort of “shoot to kill” policy on the part of the police or HMG”.

NIRPOA: “Such allegations are manifest nonsense“.

Q: What do you want from the Hasss Talks?
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It is time for our members to enjoy the retirement which their public service has earned.
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Financial support for the welfare arrangements which are in place for retired police officers and police dependents should be guaranteed; they should not be vulnerable to changes in the political climate in Northern Ireland

Comment: Peter Mandelson, the Northern Ireland secretary, unveiled a £200m redundancy package for Royal Ulster Constabulary officers, declaring it the most generous scheme ever available to public sector workers in the UK. A chief superintendent, aged 50, with 30 years’ enhanced pensionable service,
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got a lump sum of more than £300,000 and an annual pension of more than £27,000. A constable of the same age and service
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got nearly £134,000, with an annual pension of more than £13,000.

2)NIRPOA wants to change the definition of victims. “We believe the current definition to be unsatisfactory and ill thought-through“.
Comment:
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DUP MP Mr Jeffery Donaldson told the House of Commons he hoped to change the law regarding the definition of victims with a private member’s bill. Like the NIRPO he agreed that “You cannot equate the perpetrators of terrorist violence with their innocent victims.
A similar bill was brought to the Northern Ireland Assembly in 2010 but did not become law.
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Q. What else does the NIRPOA want?
3) An Inquiry
All these inquests should be rolled into one inquiry. Although we are opposed in principle to any further public inquiries, this one inquiry may be necessary in order to discharge the UK’s obligations under Article 2 in relation to full and open investigations into relevant deaths.

Comment:I do wish the NIRPOA would pay attention and keep up! They’re just like the UPC! Our lovely SOS
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said “The Government does not believe that selecting a further series of cases for public inquiries is the best way to deal with the past in Northern Ireland.”
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/09/13/hm-government-says-no/
4) Establishing an agreed record of the past from lawyers, politicians and other polemicists to professional historians and academics.
Comment: Excluding all the ordinary people from working class areas who bore the brunt of the conflict? But then as we saw above the NIRPOA don’t believe they tell the truth
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NIRPOA: We hope that the initiative led by Dr Haass will recognise the merits of our arguments and take steps to secure their implementation.
Comment: You may have to prepare for disappointment

http://mcgurksbar.com/
http://www.nirpoa.org/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/jul/25/northernireland.johnmullin1
RUC retirement offer up to £300,000 – Telegraph
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-23238559
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/ruc_reform/780311.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1350297/RUC-retirement-offer-up-to-300000.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25125299
http://www.policeombudsman.org/modules/investigation_reports/index.cfm/reportId/269
http://www.hmic.gov.uk/media/inspection-of-the-police-service-of-northern-ireland-historical-enquiries-team-20130703.pdf
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http://m.zinterra.com/gag/97
http://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2011/10/background-ruc-pat-finucane-colm.html
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/ruc-old-guard-trying-to-close-ranks-pat-finucane-centre-1-5622990

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